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Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist
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(04-01-2018, 02:22 AM)HomeGroundAdvantage Wrote: Recently I've been playing Rugby League Live 4 quite a bit, and I've realised that there are quite a few issues that make the game incredibly frustrating to play. I went back to RLL3 and saw some things that were better in that game, but I also noticed that the flow of the game wasn't as on par with RLL4. So I sat down, and thought of the top 5 things that need to be changed in Rugby League Live 5 and I honestly believe that should these changes be implemented, we would have the BEST Rugby League video game to date.

1. Passing and Overlaps:

In Rugby League Live 2 and 3, it seemed to be way too easy to spread the ball to the edge of the field, draw in the winger, and pass it to your winger who would make a line break 85% of the time. This was the main reason why the defensive A.I. was changed in RLL4, making it nearly impossible to spread the ball out wide and make a break using the "draw and pass" technique. I can understand the thought process behind this change, but it went from one extreme to another. It feels like every A.I.-controlled defensive player in RLL4 can see the future, instead of being drawn in when you're spreading the ball, they always guess correctly and teleport to the open man at lightning speed as soon as you tap the pass button. Once again I understand that a change was needed, but set plays and "drawing and passing" after creating an overlap is an essential part of Rugby League, and the fact that we don't have the option to do this in RLL4 makes attacking extremely difficult and unrealistic. My next "MUST CHANGE" coincides with overlaps, and it is the passing in RLL4. It is terrible. I like the option of having the flat pass/float pass option, but far too often when using the pass modifiers (A,B,Y,X) or even passing the ball in general, the pass will float about 6 meters in the air as if it is filled with helium, giving the defense time to rush up and it kills your momentum on attack. Anybody who has played this game for a considerable amount of time will know exactly what I'm talking about, and it needs to change.

2. Momentum/Dragging the Ball Carrier on Defense

This one is a little different as I have no complaints and feel that it was done almost perfectly in RLL4. I have no complaints about the new momentum system implemented in RLL4, it made powerful forwards extremely valuable and was well balanced with the "drag ball carrier" feature in defense. I thought it was important to give credit where it is due and note that the momentum system should continue to be used in future RLL games. Props to Big Ant on this implementation.

3. Tackling

Once again, this was improved in RLL4 but it still is not where it needs to be. I liked the introduction of gang-tackling and felt that it was extremely useful when the ball-carrier was gaining meters after contact. Not only did it positively affect gameplay, but it improved the visual likeness between the game and the NRL. My primary issue with tackling was that defensive players were teleporting across the field into "gang-tackle" animations way too often. I thought that it took away from the realism of the game, and gave the defense an unfair advantage. If I isolate a defensive player with a forward and am gaining meters after contact, I shouldn't have another defensive player teleport 7 meters across the field to help join in the tackle and stop my momentum. I would like to see more gang-tackling animations added to the game and no more of those "teleporting" animations.

4. Kicking/Place Kicking

In my opinion, this was the second worse thing in Rugby League Live 4 besides the passing/overlaps. The kick-chase is still not where it needs to be, and the pre-determined sidestep from the ball-carrier returning an in-play kick becomes old very quickly and is unrealistic. It seems like no matter which player is returning a punt, they always break the first tackle and it can become frustrating especially after completing a solid set and finding the grass on your kick. By far the WORST part of kicking in RLL4 is the defensive A.I. after putting through a grubber or chip kick. I am not even sure how to articulate this, but once again, anybody who has played RLL4 for a reasonable amount of time would have experienced this. It seems like every defensive player controlled by the A.I. loses all awareness on where the ball is once it has been kicked and they have no ability to track it, this usually results in the attacking side re-gathering the ball. Nothing is quite as frustrating as having the CPU put a grubber through when they're attacking on your line, kicking it directly at one of your players only to have your player stare at the ball and have the CPU recover it and score. The entire kick-chase needs to be revamped, the defensive CPU's reaction when the ball is kicked needs to be revamped. In general, it needs an overhaul. Moving on to Place Kicking. I actually like how place kicks are performed this year. Big Ant seems to have taken a page out of EA's book with the Madden 25-esk kick meter. However, I don't like the fact that there isn't a consistent "short kick-off" option in RLL4. It seems impossible to kick it high and short and get a contested catch animation, meaning that there is no real strategy involved with kicking off (or dropouts) this year. In the NRL, the short-kick off drop-outs and kick-offs is something we've seen utilized by many teams, specifically the Bulldogs in the 2017 season, and we should be able to pull it off in RLL4. Not sure why they removed it, as it was a viable option in RLL3.

5. Animations

The passing animations are terrible this year, they seem to be the same every time you pass the ball. In Rugby League, there are many different types of passes that players pull off and they all look different. Some variety here would be great (flick passes, no look passes, planting both feet and then throwing it out the back etc.). Same goes for side-stepping animations, "big-hit" animations, and fend animations. We need variety in all of those departments, as they all look too similar every time you pull off a move, and visually the game becomes redundant way too quickly.

6. Removal of Glitches

Not going to rant and rave here, but there are far too many glitches that exist for far too long. Off the top of my head, things such as the lighting glitching (the lights turn off and you're left playing in darkness), players and cheerleaders morphing together in the middle of the field between cutscenes etc. There needs to be more attention to detail, and more urgency by Big Ant/Tru Blu in getting on top of these glitches and making the game as "glitch free" as possible.

You combine all of these things mentioned with updated player models and player ratings and slightly smoother gameplay, and I think you have the best Rugby League game to date. I tried to give specific examples with every point I made, and hopefully, this can be used as constructive criticism to make Rugby League video games great. I appreciate any feedback, and I would love to have a conversation with anyone who has things they believe need to be implemented.

Happy Easter guys, cheers.
It is highly frustrating and not cos of what the game does but what it allows you to do.

I find most of the controls to be unresponsive which when combined with high tackles, poor passes and AI super abilities just gives a feel of inevitability.

I still struggle to go forward in a tackle in attack or defense, which means slow play of the ball and off loads are not an option. 

I think it just seems like the AI have different physics like forward passes are certainly allowed for them unless from tap penalty. Super human speed either catching or nearly catching every time but unable to return the favour. 

Steps, passes, lines of running all can happen faster than I ever can.

All I want is a game that's fair and it just needs tweaking and could be really good fun. I remember the same happened for RLL3 it took a patch to make it really fun.
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RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Radman - 04-06-2018, 03:39 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by DOOGRAY12 - 04-06-2018, 11:23 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Radman - 04-07-2018, 12:04 AM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Ruck - 04-12-2018, 02:36 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Jbrown7 - 04-14-2018, 12:19 AM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Jbrown7 - 04-14-2018, 12:20 AM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Mcooper11 - 04-15-2018, 03:21 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by drewey78 - 05-01-2018, 06:59 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Ruck - 05-03-2018, 11:07 AM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Moonwlkr - 05-05-2018, 01:09 AM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Radman - 05-08-2018, 06:38 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by davies11 - 05-12-2018, 12:48 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by jim393 - 05-17-2018, 07:35 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Radman - 05-19-2018, 02:30 AM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by jim393 - 05-27-2018, 06:03 AM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Radman - 09-06-2018, 08:46 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by ET1980 - 05-22-2018, 05:29 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Parra4Life - 11-07-2018, 09:59 AM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Jasche78 - 05-26-2018, 07:50 AM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by ET1980 - 05-27-2018, 08:13 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Jasche78 - 06-02-2018, 03:18 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by PJ6 - 07-16-2018, 03:34 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by davies11 - 07-23-2018, 04:46 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Ruck - 07-23-2018, 06:32 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by goaliedad73 - 07-24-2018, 07:35 AM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by davies11 - 07-25-2018, 07:59 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by davies11 - 07-25-2018, 08:26 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Radman - 08-11-2018, 08:12 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by tstev92 - 08-15-2018, 10:50 AM
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RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Boundedbeef - 09-05-2018, 07:13 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by ET1980 - 09-07-2018, 12:56 AM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by tstev92 - 09-25-2018, 09:18 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by W4RDY96 - 10-03-2018, 10:27 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by tstev92 - 10-06-2018, 06:26 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by sanzar - 10-14-2018, 06:01 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by MattWire - 10-15-2018, 02:03 AM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Radman - 10-16-2018, 10:54 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Steeler - 10-29-2018, 08:08 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Ruck - 10-29-2018, 08:34 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Radman - 11-13-2018, 07:44 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Ruck - 11-14-2018, 08:41 AM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by TheOdd1Out - 11-18-2018, 12:59 AM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Seiznosus - 01-22-2019, 04:09 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Sekope41 - 01-28-2019, 05:10 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Priddo - 01-28-2019, 07:52 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Radman - 01-28-2019, 09:04 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Radman - 02-01-2019, 07:25 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Ruck - 02-02-2019, 05:50 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Radman - 02-08-2019, 06:46 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Ruck - 02-08-2019, 07:57 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Radman - 02-10-2019, 03:41 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by rzesiej13 - 02-11-2019, 02:22 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by carson ings - 03-28-2019, 10:18 AM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Jared0262 - 04-06-2019, 11:14 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by theaxe1606 - 04-07-2019, 08:49 AM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by border - 04-08-2019, 08:43 AM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Ruck - 04-08-2019, 09:30 AM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by theaxe1606 - 04-08-2019, 04:41 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by KStaar - 04-27-2019, 08:14 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by drewey78 - 05-24-2019, 05:18 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by pure_brad - 05-28-2019, 08:35 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Radman - 05-28-2019, 09:25 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by pure_brad - 05-30-2019, 12:28 AM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Radman - 05-30-2019, 09:50 AM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by drewey78 - 05-31-2019, 09:51 AM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by tstev92 - 10-28-2019, 11:43 PM
RE: Rugby League Live 5 Wishlist - by Aramanthius - 10-29-2019, 05:03 PM
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